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I think many people are expecting far less from Palin than they're going to get. Even Obama acknowledges that, based on her previous debate experience, she is very good at debating.

This VP debate is very structured unlike sit down interviews so I think she will do fine.

I think Biden will do fine as well. My only thing is that if he gets abrasive and hard hitting it could leave him open for criticism from Palin supporters and defensive women for being mean. So who knows.

Damnit Cooper stop that! That's the second time this year you've said something that I agree with. :)

I'd really like to meet your cat Article19.

Honestly... I would be ok with Obama in the White House if I knew Congress would not be in the hands of the Democrats.

It's not so much Obama that I have a problem with (I have plenty of objections with his personal politics) it's the forthcoming Ménage à trois of Obama/Pelosi/Reed that I don't look forward to.

I don't expect Obama's first term in office to be as uplifting as you expect it to be... and hey, if either of these men get in and DO fix things then more power to either of them, I'm just not going to be the one who is shocked when we're talking about the same crap in 2012 because it's stayed the same or gotten worse.

The coming Palin debate train wreck is only going to make the tickets poll numbers tank even more, if she doesn't quit before then just to get out of it!

I'm gonna laugh at the reaction if it's the opposite of what the left is expecting. No matter HOW she performs your reaction will be the same. She could clean his clock and everyone will be as pissy and angry as they were the day before.

Part of me wants Obama to win so we don't hear endless drivel about racism and "stolen" elections for 4 more years.

I find it funny that while most people are yuckin it up at McCain's expense... folks like Bill Clinton are applauding him for focusing on the REAL issues.

I feel it DID come off as an attention grab but in all honesty, had Congress NOT come to a decision today and kept stalling I would have liked to know that Senators were more interested in doing their primary job than running for another office.

He wasn't backing out of a debate (in fact McCain was the one calling for MORE with Obama turning him down) he was wanting focus on the economy not partisan bickering debates. His stipulation WAS that he would prefer the debate be postponed had Congress not come to a conclusion by Friday. Odds are that the band-aid should be on by Friday so there really WASN'T a reason for all of this.

With all due respect, a debate is HARDLY an important issue...

Well it didn't hurt that the only defining trait Dukakis had was his eyebrows.

I'm just speaking from my personal experience... the left, in the previous few elections have ridden their chariots on "exit polling" and sat at the finish line scratching their heads wondering why they lost.

Relying on polls and kids as proof that you're going to win is retarded.

I told the exit poll person in my precinct that I voted for Kerry in 2004... a lot of good that poll was.

My point is, rely on people who HISTORICALLY DO vote, and you'll have a better idea of where you stand... MTV can "rock the vote" all they want, but when this "youth vote" routinely lets you down you have to wonder when they're going to get the clue.

It's easy to suggest things will be different now that the "youth" have access to all this so called "lie busting"... BUT year after year the "youth" prove that they can be heavily relied on to participate in polls but fail to ACTUALLY vote. Why else is there a HUGE market in "get out to vote" programs aimed at young voters.

I have friends who were HUGE activists in 2004 for the Democratic ticket, funny thing was, when it came time for him to go to the polls he couldn't be motivated himself to vote. I laugh every time he screams about the current President.

I have to agree with fuscom... the GOP is loving all this free press and the poll numbers are showing why.

Article19... I completely agree, and that goes right along with the PILE of response letters I have in the filing cabinet under my laptop.

I write and call those representing me constantly.

Problem is, I feel the machine of Washington seems to put blinders on these people who have made a career out of this "civil servant" responsibility.

Honestly, I think the BEST way possible to "change" the machine would be to slap tight restrictions on how long someone can represent the people... and restrict the abilities of ALL the branches of government to those granted to them by the Constitution.

The ONLY problem I have with that is that it sounds all well and good coming out of his mouth... but based on what the "change" Democrats have done since 2006 when they took control of Congress it is laughable to even remotely think that that will actually take place.

The American public voted in a wave of replacements into congress on a tide of "hope and change" very similar to that which Obama is riding now and they have failed miserably to enact this "change" they spoke of.

I will be shocked if more than a quarter of either parties election rhetoric comes to pass.

I don't recall losing my cool anytime recently... I like coming here because people with polar opposite views were able to converse about the most hot button issues without acting like children.

As of late it seems like that ability has left many people here.

I don't see what the big deal is... it's an image.

I highly doubt McCain "checks his slides" and if it was a big deal then I'm sure the guy in charge of it is finding something else to do by now.

Tyme should already have my opinion on things as of late in her inbox. :)

You think you would have been treated even remotely as fast as you had been under any government rule?

I'm not even going to bother addressing the crap in here but I do have to say one thing...

Why don't we just put McCain/Palin/Obama/Biden in a big cage and the two left alive are the President and the VP.... end all this bullshit from both sides.

You know as well as I do that Obama and Biden will tell you anything you want to hear to get your vote... and so will McCain and Palin. It's called politics.

Nothing is going to change either way... I stand by that.

Article19... you know as well as anyone that I didn't mean ONE project cost $1,000,000,000.

Well not ALL the time... A quick Google search turned up an earmark from 2006 where Rep. Tom Davis (R-VA) wanted to add $1.5 billion to the Deep Water Energy Resources Act to service the metro transit system in his district.

The problem I have with amendments like these isn't because it may BE beneficial to the Metro system to get this $1.5 billion dollars, it's that they wanted to use taxpayer funds in a bill who's primary function was no where close to the same target as the amendment.

In 2007, there were 2,658 add on's to the Defense and Homeland Security Appropriations Acts that had NOTHING to do with Homeland Security or Defense... at a cost of $13.2 BILLION to the tax payers.

When you're adding in funding for state level projects like museum improvements, ball parks, stadiums and libraries you're not doing your job.

Congress' job at the national level is to fund NATIONAL level projects... not state level luxuries.

We already shell out TONS of taxes that our so called "representatives" feel they need to filter towards buildings with their names on them and other billion dollar "fluff" projects. If they actually SPENT the money responsibly and the way they SAID they would and cut off the pork projects, they wouldn't NEED to raise any taxes.

...his overall economic policy of raising taxes on the people who can afford it while lowering it for the vast majority of the population is, I believe, the right way to go.

Oh yeah, tax those rich folk, they don't pay enough as it is...

The top 10% of wage earners in the US pick up 68% of the over all tax bill each year. Why not bleed them for a little more. You're assuming that nothing much is done with all that wealth... that they have stockpiles of untaxed income just waiting to be tapped into.

Business owners that pay a large chunk of this nations tax burden aren't going to be shelling out the jobs if their money is disappearing faster and faster thanks to MORE taxes... in fact they're going to be MORE willing leave the country for employees as they can pull more profit by paying them less for the same jobs.

Generally, I don't support the Libertarian platform because it tends to resemble more of a equatorial oligarchy than a liberal government where it is the responsibility of the government to protect its people

While government DOES have a role in protecting its people, I personally feel that I would much prefer less than more. Protect me from foreign attacks, protect my borders and protect our economy... other than that I'm pretty adept at taking care of me and my own.

Who do I support and why... well given that I am an unwilling participant in the two party election system we've been pigeonholed into (in that I would MUCH prefer a balanced process open to any and ALL political parties and their ideas)... at this spot in the road I MUCH prefer a McCain/Palin ticket to an Obama/Biden one, bearing in mind that no one will ever find a PERFECT candidate.

I agree with his plan to repeal the $.54 per gallon tax on sugar based ethanol and repealing corn based ethanol mandates.

I share his supported expansion for the death penalty and limits on appeals.

I agree with his plan on expanding school choice programs.

I side with McCain on offshore drilling (although I would include drilling in ANWR). I also feel WHILE we're drilling for more oil, we need to be finding alternatives to our current fuel sources. You're NOT going to be able to shut off oil any time soon, better to reduce imports while you do your research.

McCain has supposedly turned the page on his support for amnesty but it has yet to be seen if he would continue this support into office. As of right now, I support his calls for a border fence and a more secure border.

I approve of McCains plans to ease the Bush restrictions on stem cell research...

As for Universal Healthcare... I don't wish to be taxed, to assist anyone else's health concerns. If someone in my life, who means something to me needs assistance I will gladly help. If we can't get Medicaid right, what makes you think the government will be able to get national coverage work?

McCain supports a plan for a $2,500 refundable tax credit for individuals, and a $5,000 credit for families, to make health insurance more affordable.

I'll be glad to continue a mature, adult conversation with anyone willing to do so.

Facts and opinions are one thing, insulting someone because they hold different values than you and you cannot find a way to rationalize your thoughts is uncalled for.

Back to the discussion...

Obama's words were that she was a fine mother and an up and coming public servant but that it was too early to really have much of an opinion of her. That's fine... it's day 2.

Regardless of what you may think he is just as accountable for HIS words as he is the words of those that represent him. He and Biden both will have to be careful with how they criticize her as polling during the early primary season showed that he lost large numbers of points when he was harsh on Clinton in the 'single mother and married women' segments of the US voter base.

Article...

The spokesmen and women who work for Obama speak FOR Obama. When a staff member makes a comment about another candidate they speak for Obama whether or not Obama actually uttered the words or not.

Glad to see they let the kids access the computer lab every once in a while.

Within minutes all the arguments against her were laid on the table by Obama's people... the strangest being that she doesn't have ENOUGH executive experience to be the VP.

Lets see here...

Obama - NONE
Biden - NONE

vs.

McCain - NONE
Palin - 2 years as Governor of AK and 6 years as Mayor of Wasilla, AK.

So we have a pair of liberal Senators yukin it up about how unqualified she is due to lack of executive experience... hmmmm something doesn't seem RIGHT to me.

Look, you can be the most charismatic, god-like person on the planet and you can still be a lousy President.

I saw this run by on Twitter earlier and it fit, oh so well...

Obama & Palin were young politicians operating in cesspools of corruption. Palin confronted it; Obama acquiesced to the machine.

Usually when you're a popular leader it means you're doing what the people who elected you (or are hoping to elect you) want you to do.

Usually when you're a popular leader, your supporters can explain in a lucid well formed sentence WHY they support you.

"because"

"he's great!"

"ummmmmm Bush sucks!"

...aren't signs of a solid platform.

There is popularity based on accomplishments and then there is popularity based on generalities... Obama is the latter.

He has promised the world, it will be entertaining watching the delivery.

That comes later when we bestow upon him the title, "President of the World".

I do think it's funny that he's so quick to distance himself from the elitist and celebrity tags...

Like you said... out of 300 million people he thinks he's the best.

But then again, it tends to be the kiss of death for a Presidential candidate.

I do wonder if he can make up his mind though... he's been fighting tooth an nail for weeks trying to axe the celebrity elitist image, then he builds the acropolis in a football stadium to talk to a sea of people, half of which are hollywood elites and political elites...

The Onion is VERY good at making a point while making a joke at the same time.

Ahhh, I figured it was a race thing... they looked like they had that chip on their shoulder.

It's one thing to be pissed that they voted you out for your past rulings... it's another thing entirely to blow up because you assumed it to be a race thing.

I really wish people would grow out of this assumed racism crap.

WOW, Tyme, care to translate that into English? :D

I never did Debate myself... so most of that stuff went over my head.

Anyone care to translate? I didn't get most of that.

Gotta love it when people go beyond debate and get all emotional.

This is the kind of things you get when governments control education. Priorities are never aimed where they're ACTUALLY needed.

Ahhh true, didn't think about that.

I could just see a pale blonde kid marking off "African-American" and getting a snotty comment from a college registrar.

Does he ever get a negative reaction if he marks Black/African American on a form?

Just as brilliant as schools that eliminate Phys Ed but keep Fountain Sodas and Fried foods on the school lunch menus.

To me there HAVE to be other areas that can be cut back first before slicing and dicing their education.

Ditch the organic Apples... stop buying soda... cut back on recess monitors who's sole job is to curtail actual fun during recess.

Weirdnessocity.

Speaking of interracial marriages...

Why is it that Barrack Obama, the offspring of interracial parents, is considered "Black" when he is in fact a mulatto.